But what do you think of THIS? Honestly, I am on the side of the cops! A lot of people are not but really, if you are just getting a ticket for speeding why run off TWICE! Because she had drug paraphernalia that's why! I know she had a car full of kids, but that is HER choice to run away! If those kids were shot at then it's her responsibility. What do you think? 

She was stupid, definitely. Shooting at a car full of children was way over the line though, in my opinion, regardless of the mother's choices. 

I don't get people like this, and there are plenty of them out there. My husband is an MP and could tell you plenty of true stories. Search police videos on Youtube or something to that effect and you will see plenty of people who get stopped for routine violations and their actions escalate the situation. What do people not understand…obey the law, listen to the police, don't get in trouble. How hard is that?

That being said, NM is taking a lot of heat lately for the actions of their police officers. I do believe she was in the wrong all the way but I also think in any situation like this a full investigation is warranted to make sure the officers followed their own rules and regulations. 

I know I'm paranoid by nature, but if I were a cop I'd right away think.....what are they hiding that would make them run away with a car full of kids TWICE? A dead body in the back? People nowadays have shown a lack of common sense that leaves a lot to be desired! 

My husband got a ticket for driving that speed in that speed zone and we paid a few hundred bucks, but her behavior is plenty suspicious! 

I think both parties were in the wrong. She should've just given in instead of putting her children in a bad situation and teach a lesson that if you mess up you have to deal with consequences. The cops should've thought because they could've killed a child or a fellow officer. The number one thing they strive for is to keep the innocent people caught up in the vicinity unharmed but they didn't even think wait we need yo be careful because 5children are in danger. There is clearly no right in this situation and I think both parties should be penalized. 

I'm not sure what I think about this one. Not going to say shooting was ok but I fully agree in them taxing the child. If you are going to think you're big enough to charge at a cop then you deserve what's coming to you. 

This was not ok, AT ALL. 

Sure she should of taken the ticket, duh, if he killed one of those children over someone not receiving a ticket omg. The police need better training, yes what she did was ridiculous, but to shoot at a mini van full of kids?. No. 

if he killed one of those children over someone not receiving a ticket omg.

What if she was running away from having killed someone? Have you ever been pulled over? What would compel someone to run away TWICE! Like I said, if I was just speeding and got pulled over(which I have been!) why not just pull over and get the damn ticket? Because she had MJ pipes that's why. The cops had no way of knowing that's the only reason she ran away! She thought of no one but herself when she ran away. 

It definitely looks like the third officer in the video was shooting to disable the vehicle, not simply shooting at a van full of kids like the article implies. 

I am not talking about her, I am talking about the way the police confronted the situation. 

We are losing our humanity, and the price will be great....trust me a lot of professionals will be doing a psychoanalysis on this entire situation. I trust the findings will bring further change and adjustments should any be needed. 

Yea trying to get away is super suspicious. But there have to be better ways to handle that, without resorting to firing weapons. 

Justice has to be equal or it's not justice...so a drug pipe---NEVER, EVER-warrants a dead child. There is simply zero need to fire..they have all the info they need to prosecute her by her make and model and license number....We are protected from cruel and unusual punishment...and from abuse or negligence from the police or any other entity via the constitution..that includes excessive force, which this CLEARLY was... 

That said, this woman is all sort of guilty as well, child endangerment, possession and resisting.....she will probably be able to make a deal and get off now. 

Agree

Slow clap 

so a drug pipe---NEVER, EVER-warrants a dead child.

Isn't that the mom's call? 

Sandra you are "professed Christian"

This is what kills me about this religion, although I agree it teaches morales, and the concept of good versus evil....it STILL leaves a lot open for translation am I right?

So the Christian perspective is she and those children deserved this, because the mother was what ? An evil drug user? Omg I am lost! 

Or is the Christian perspective that if one of the children died it would be justified because of the sins of the mother?

This sh!t confuses me....however your not the first the pastor of the church that I attend has received a few emails from me.....respectful but QUESTIONABLE! 

Sandra you are "professed Christian"

This is what kills me about this religion, although I agree it teaches morales, and the concept of good versus evil....it STILL leaves a lot open for translation am I right?

So the Christian perspective is she and those children deserved this, because the mother was what ? An evil drug user? Omg I am lost!

Can you stop labeling my religion? It's not the first time. It has nothing to do w/ being Christian, Catholic or freakin' Mormon. It's common sense. UGH You really piss me off. 

It's not the first time you label me as being a Christian and I don't appreciate it. Christians are not perfect you know 

Oh now I am way more lost! I thought it did. I thought it meant a lot, and what Jesus would do was super important!

My bad. 

Don't worry Sandra my bad....I will NEVER view you has having "Christian morals" EVER again.


Believe that. 

With that said,
Who cares! She had what was coming to her! I think the real crime is that the officer didn't shoot straight I mean now we have one more pot smoking minivan driving lunatic on our streets. Tonight I am locking my door! 

Whatever..... 

I haven't watched the video but I read it. If she kept taking off and they were trying to shoot out the tires...who cares. It's better than it resulting in a high speed chase and possibly all of them and others getting killed. 

I feel the cops were in the right here. They were clearly not trying to shoot into the vehicle, none the less I understand bullets can go astray and are not always on target. She would have fled a 3rd time. They were trying to shoot out the tires. Under the exigent circumstance rule, they had every right to try to catch her and not allow her to flee again, I am sure that officer knew something was sketchy which gave him reasonable doubt to believe she was hiding something. She is an idiot! She should have just taken the ticket and shut her mouth. The 14 yr old getting out did not help the situation. You have to remember, the officers life is ALWAYS at risk. MOST shootings (police/suspect) occur during domestic disturbance and traffic stops. What should be a clear stop and go can turn deadly in seconds, these officers have to do what they can to use quick thinking, and protect themselves and innocent civilians in the process of rationalizing in seconds. It's not always going to go the way we all think it should in a perfect world. 

The cops could have reacted and shot or tasered the kid, but he didn't. He was being wrestled by both. 

It definitely looks like the third officer in the video was shooting to disable the vehicle, not simply shooting at a van full of kids like the article implies.

And this is where the media comes in playing the role of hyping up everyone for a story. Let's switch the situation...A high speed chase is in place on the interstate, the car exits and speeds through a residential neighborhood...the suspect/driver has just taking his/her own child from the mother and the police believe the child is in danger. The only way the see to stop the vehicle is to try spike strips or disable the vehicle by shooting out the tires. Is is worth the chance?

You have to look at things on a case by case basis. The urgency, the necessity, the level of force being used, the actions and threat posed by the suspect, etc.

The article, as well as the way they announce this on CNN said "Cops shooting into a van full of kids" , that's clearly not what happened, but that's what we hear over and over as this case plays out and it's repeated again and again.