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Opinions on the "accident" regarding the toddler killed at the zoo??

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33Whisky --- 12 years ago -

http://www.examiner.com/article/autopsy-report-states-child-died-from-dog-mauling-at-pittsburgh-zoo

I don't believe this was an accident. She killed her child, be it stupidity, carelessness, or intent, this is HER FAULT.
Can anyone name a parent they know that wouldn't be in that pen and saving their child??
Because I sure as hell don't, Hell had I been there to witness it, I would have been in the damned pen!!

I can't help but wonder if maybe she has a severe case of post partum? Drug problem? Abusive?
Something just seems seriously off about neither parent jumping in to get to the toddler because it took quite a while for zoo staff to get there. I don't know any parent that wouldn't have been jumping right in after him.

Thoughts?? 

BelleAdoresMommaFriend --- 12 years ago -

I can't even bring myself to read that article after the first time!
I completely agree with you though. I read it and the only thing I could think was that there in not a pen full of anything in the world that would keep me from jumping in to save my 2 year old daughter! I don't care what it was or how far a fall it was, I would be in there! 

Katena --- 12 years ago -

I agree i thought something was off too. My 3 year old has been a climber from day one. why was he on the railing? There were so many precautions that the zoo took.I am just wondering and hope he died on impact because that is a cruel way to die. I am sorry that this happened but believe their is more to the story. 

BelleAdoresMommaFriend --- 12 years ago -

And I also agree that even if I saw it happen to a different child in front of me that I didn't know I would likely be in the pen! 

33Whisky --- 12 years ago -

I know I've run out in front of a car to save a child I was nannying, I was just lucky the car was able to stop.

Nothing should have kept any bystanders (ESPECIALLY HIS PARENTS) from being IN that pen IMMEDIATELY and fending off the dogs!

And unfortunately, autopsy showed he died from the attacking dogs, which sadly means his parents stood by and watched.

This just doesn't seem like any kind of accident to me. 

33Whisky --- 12 years ago -

His mom SET him up on the railing, over the pen, to watch the dogs.

I feel like she was completely ignoring his actions - or - ignorant of his natural wiggly behavior and she should have known better - or - *shudders* gave him a nudge... 

Frankie --- 12 years ago -

I hope it was an accident, I would hate to think the other thing. But I would hate to make an butt out of myself by assuming anything about this Mom. I would hate to think it might cause her and the family any more pain by talking about their tragedy in any manner other then sympathy and prayers for them. 

33Whisky --- 12 years ago -

Frankie, I see your point. And I don't mean to talk about it in slander....

I'm just looking for other opinions because I'm personally struggling to understand...

That's why I brought up the possibility of post partum or something else.

I just don't understand how no one did anything about it.. 

myopinion --- 12 years ago -

Interesting.
I hate to put myself in the what would I do topics of the world....buuuut Ill try.

I cant imagine I would leap down 12ft? Assuming I made it over that protective gateing. Google an arial map of the Zoo. It was pretty amazing the child fell just so. Actually SHOCKING the child defied science. Now me being super smart the mathmatics would discourage me from tempting entry that way. I would however formulate an alternative aproach. Assuming hyhenias were not the most agressive form of wild dog that is known to kill its prey in packs . So what I would do..........SCREAM MY HEAD OFF 

33Whisky --- 12 years ago -

Watching some more articles and videos from the news footage, I just see less and less reasons as to why the MULTIPLE bystanders didn't start jumping in to group up and fend off the dogs.

I just don't understand the lack of common sense. 

MASC --- 12 years ago -

not to take away from the tragedy, but why were they even considering putting the dogs down? they are wild animals, they acted as wild animals would! i dont understand why one was shot either, since it says the boy died almost immediately. 

myopinion --- 12 years ago -

Many people who were interviewd confessed to have witnessed by far the most horric shocking event of their lives.

Lets break this down....a tiny toddler falls 12 feet on to cement.....the fall would have renderd him at the very least un able to move. Then IMMEDIATLEY the wild dogs go in to feast. Not maim...not injury.....to eat. This all takes less then 2 mins.

Better question.....WHO WOULD EVER BREAK SUCH A RULE AS TO STAY OFF THE BARRIAR FENCE. I hope shes happy her son got a CLOSE look. Hope it was worth it. 

33Whisky --- 12 years ago -

MyOpinion:
Better question.....WHO WOULD EVER BREAK SUCH A RULE AS TO STAY OFF THE BARRIAR FENCE. I hope shes happy her son got a CLOSE look. Hope it was worth it.


EXACTLY what my husband and I were discussing....
What kind of irresponsible parent does this??? 

Megan LeeAnne --- 12 years ago -

I can't read the story bc my phone wont copy and paste it but by comments I wouldn't ever put my kid up on something to see without me holding on to them at all times...but on the other hand I was just at this zoo over the summer with my child and there are SEVERAL places children can very easily get hurt whether its from a careless parent or not. 

JustcallmeSuz --- 12 years ago -

My husband watched this on the news and we were both dumbfounded. Who the hell lifts their child up to where they are NOT suppose to be. I pray it was not intentional. That poor baby boy. I can also say without a doubt, my husband and I would have been in there trying to save our child. 

myopinion --- 12 years ago -

See I guess im oldschool.....because im a believer in what you see is what you get. There was no saving that child. Every eyewitness agreed on that. Everyone. It was actually less then one minute. Child falls....fall possibly kills child immadiatley. Wild dogs rip body to shreds seconds after body hit cement. SECONDS.

What am I missing? Whats to save? 

JustcallmeSuz --- 12 years ago -

I do not care. That is my child and if there is even a fraction of a chance to save him/her I will. End of story! For me, there would be no thinking, I would be in there. 

myopinion --- 12 years ago -

To jump in would only recover a partly ravaged body. And possibly accumulate ANOTHER. This was a situation where they were trying to recover the body from the dogs not stop the possible death. Death had already occured.

This mother will never be the same. Mentally, she will anguish forever. Simple, her poor decision making cost her childs life. Wow. 

myopinion --- 12 years ago -

Heck who am I to judge....go for it grab your partially eaten dead child....possibly make your others motherless.....to each his own. Personally, if I was that stupid in the first place I would probably just stand there in my horror and stupidity. 

JustcallmeSuz --- 12 years ago -

No need to call my opinion stupid. To each their own. I just know in my heart I could not stand there and do nothing. To me, that says a lot about a mother. 

Sandra --- 12 years ago -

No need to call my opinion stupid. To each their own. I just know in my heart I could not stand there and do nothing. To me, that says a lot about a mother.

I agree with you, even if all I had to pick up were pieces of my child, I will be damned if I'd just stand there, 2 seconds or 2 minutes, and do nothing. 

myopinion --- 12 years ago -

Uh lost in translation?.........the person stupid is the one who drops their child killing it. Not sure how you ladies read into that? Ill tone it down. Just add some water lol. 

myopinion --- 12 years ago -

 

AwesomeSauce --- 12 years ago -

Ummmm I saw this article. It was horrible. Maybe I'm overprotective, but my son is either physically tied to me or kept far away from the edge of anything. I can't imagine being that mother. So sad. 

Are we done yet --- 12 years ago -

I'm sorry but this was all her fault. Who sets a 2 year old on the ledge. If they want to see hold them up. If your going to put him on the ledge make sure you hold on to him. In my opinion if i were the father (dk if mother and father are married) But i would be doing something about her stupidity and pressing to get her charged with something. I live in germany on the 3rd floor even tho we have a big tall railing around our balcony i dont trust my 5 and 6 year old that know better than to climb out there by themselves because of fear they will climb. This whole story just makes me MAD!!! 

GuNMetAl --- 12 years ago -

It for sure was a horrific event that happened. I told my husband the SECOND my child (or anyone else's) went over that fence I would be right behind them- I have a better rate of survival than any child!! I can live with scratches and scars- no child should have had to experience this-

Now- with that said- I do feel it was an accident, BUT I also feel that it was an at fault accident. She more than likely did not intend for this to happen to her baby- but she also was clearly not showing any responsibility by lifting her child up! I have a 2 & 3 year old- no way on gods green earth would I be setting my child or boosting them up like that to lean over a 14 foot drop into a wild animals cage!

Rip sweet baby boy.. This story infuriated me- very devastating! 

Samba --- 12 years ago -

 

Leesah --- 12 years ago -

I would jump in to try and save my child as well, I wouldn't even have to think about it. They said the fall didn't kill him... I would glady sacrifice myself for either of my children. 

Samba --- 12 years ago -

I don't think she meant for this to happen, but I can agree that it was an at fault accident. I can't imagine just standing by and not trying to get in there immediately to attempt to save my child. People react very differently, she could have just been in shock. Who knows.
Putting your child up on a ledge, fence, or some type of area where there is risk to fall into an exhibit with wild animals is just stupid! Period! I don't know why they shot the dog. It's a wild animal. That's just like someone walking into a lion exhibit, being eaten by the lion then shooting the lion. What's the point or purpose? It's a wild animal, it will react as so. Stupid humans! 

myopinion --- 12 years ago -

Actually get your info straight who makes up facts....oh wait people here lol. Sweetie the medical examination and death cirtificate with cause of death is pending. Omg.
With that said....every eye witness, said baby appeared dead. It bothers me when people spew facts and figures to promote THIER point. Skys blue hun not purple cause you FEEL IT IS. 

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